1 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:10,600 [Music] 2 00:00:17,830 --> 00:00:12,890 [Applause] 3 00:00:21,990 --> 00:00:19,670 welcome to the best of first person 4 00:00:24,870 --> 00:00:22,000 episodes of phantoms and monsters 5 00:00:25,429 --> 00:00:24,880 please like subscribe and hit the bell 6 00:00:28,830 --> 00:00:25,439 icon 7 00:00:31,910 --> 00:00:28,840 so you'll be notified of all future 8 00:00:35,830 --> 00:00:34,950 utah skinwalker encounter before i tell 9 00:00:38,069 --> 00:00:35,840 my story 10 00:00:39,830 --> 00:00:38,079 i will summarize what a skinwalker is to 11 00:00:41,910 --> 00:00:39,840 those that may not know 12 00:00:44,470 --> 00:00:41,920 a skinwalker is a being that uses 13 00:00:46,150 --> 00:00:44,480 witchcraft kills an animal and uses the 14 00:00:48,389 --> 00:00:46,160 skin as a disguise 15 00:00:50,069 --> 00:00:48,399 it is mainly active at night but will 16 00:00:52,069 --> 00:00:50,079 observe during the day 17 00:00:53,430 --> 00:00:52,079 its favorite disguise is that of a 18 00:00:55,670 --> 00:00:53,440 regular human 19 00:00:57,510 --> 00:00:55,680 a skinwalker's most noticeable traits 20 00:00:58,549 --> 00:00:57,520 are yellow glowing eyes and decaying 21 00:01:01,029 --> 00:00:58,559 flesh 22 00:01:03,349 --> 00:01:01,039 anyway i was heading to a small town in 23 00:01:04,310 --> 00:01:03,359 southern utah with my wife and a couple 24 00:01:06,630 --> 00:01:04,320 of friends 25 00:01:08,550 --> 00:01:06,640 we were on our way to see lee a friend 26 00:01:09,429 --> 00:01:08,560 of mine that we hadn't seen for a long 27 00:01:11,190 --> 00:01:09,439 time 28 00:01:13,830 --> 00:01:11,200 we met up with him at his place and 29 00:01:16,149 --> 00:01:13,840 decided to hang out at a nearby lake 30 00:01:18,950 --> 00:01:16,159 it was a typical quiet campsite with a 31 00:01:20,789 --> 00:01:18,960 fire pit and a couple of logs around it 32 00:01:23,109 --> 00:01:20,799 we had a little picnic there and were 33 00:01:24,550 --> 00:01:23,119 exchanging stories and catching up with 34 00:01:27,429 --> 00:01:24,560 each other all day 35 00:01:29,670 --> 00:01:27,439 eventually one of my friends bryce got 36 00:01:31,670 --> 00:01:29,680 tired and decided to fall asleep in the 37 00:01:32,550 --> 00:01:31,680 car while the rest of us continued 38 00:01:35,590 --> 00:01:32,560 talking 39 00:01:37,590 --> 00:01:35,600 at this point twilight had fallen erica 40 00:01:39,270 --> 00:01:37,600 and i were discussing something while my 41 00:01:40,630 --> 00:01:39,280 wife and lee were talking about 42 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:40,640 something else 43 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:43,040 all of the sudden my wife and lee fall 44 00:01:46,469 --> 00:01:43,920 silent 45 00:01:47,190 --> 00:01:46,479 erica and i quickly notice we look at 46 00:01:50,149 --> 00:01:47,200 them and lee 47 00:01:50,950 --> 00:01:50,159 says get in the car i asked him what's 48 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:50,960 wrong 49 00:01:54,230 --> 00:01:53,200 and he says there might be a skinwalker 50 00:01:56,469 --> 00:01:54,240 out around 51 00:01:58,230 --> 00:01:56,479 now erica and i had no idea what a 52 00:02:00,950 --> 00:01:58,240 skinwalker was at the time 53 00:02:02,389 --> 00:02:00,960 so we asked him to explain after his 54 00:02:04,630 --> 00:02:02,399 explanation of what it was 55 00:02:05,910 --> 00:02:04,640 erica and i being the only sensible 56 00:02:08,309 --> 00:02:05,920 thinkers at the moment 57 00:02:09,510 --> 00:02:08,319 and bryce just barely waking up from us 58 00:02:11,670 --> 00:02:09,520 jumping in the car 59 00:02:13,750 --> 00:02:11,680 decide we should investigate believing 60 00:02:14,949 --> 00:02:13,760 that it was probably just some kids in a 61 00:02:17,350 --> 00:02:14,959 nearby campsite 62 00:02:19,030 --> 00:02:17,360 trying to mess with us we came to the 63 00:02:20,470 --> 00:02:19,040 top of the hill that was between our 64 00:02:22,470 --> 00:02:20,480 campsite and the next 65 00:02:23,589 --> 00:02:22,480 and looked for any likely candidates for 66 00:02:25,990 --> 00:02:23,599 the scare 67 00:02:27,750 --> 00:02:26,000 none all we could see was a couple of 68 00:02:29,510 --> 00:02:27,760 trees and some bushes 69 00:02:32,150 --> 00:02:29,520 we even called out and there was no 70 00:02:32,869 --> 00:02:32,160 response as we were walking back to the 71 00:02:35,589 --> 00:02:32,879 campsite 72 00:02:36,070 --> 00:02:35,599 we hear noises a rustling in the bushes 73 00:02:39,430 --> 00:02:36,080 behind 74 00:02:41,270 --> 00:02:39,440 us we look again but see nothing at this 75 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:41,280 point we were considering that lee and 76 00:02:45,270 --> 00:02:43,040 my wife may be right 77 00:02:46,309 --> 00:02:45,280 we get back and it's getting dark fast 78 00:02:47,910 --> 00:02:46,319 so i ask them 79 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:47,920 is there something we can do to keep 80 00:02:53,350 --> 00:02:49,680 them away for a little bit 81 00:02:56,150 --> 00:02:53,360 yes said lee they don't like fire 82 00:02:58,309 --> 00:02:56,160 and him my wife and bryce start working 83 00:03:00,309 --> 00:02:58,319 on a fire while me and erica go down by 84 00:03:02,470 --> 00:03:00,319 the lake to collect the two liters we 85 00:03:04,869 --> 00:03:02,480 had put in the water to keep cold 86 00:03:06,070 --> 00:03:04,879 now it's dark and as erica and i head 87 00:03:08,790 --> 00:03:06,080 back with the sodas 88 00:03:10,229 --> 00:03:08,800 we hear rustling in the bushes beside us 89 00:03:11,990 --> 00:03:10,239 we're both scared 90 00:03:14,149 --> 00:03:12,000 we hurry back and start putting 91 00:03:14,790 --> 00:03:14,159 everything back in the car as quickly as 92 00:03:16,710 --> 00:03:14,800 possible 93 00:03:17,990 --> 00:03:16,720 while lee made sure the fire kept 94 00:03:19,990 --> 00:03:18,000 burning after 95 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:20,000 getting everything in the car i rush 96 00:03:23,270 --> 00:03:21,280 over to the fire pit 97 00:03:25,430 --> 00:03:23,280 and tell everyone to get in the car as i 98 00:03:27,589 --> 00:03:25,440 proceed to stomp the fire out 99 00:03:29,670 --> 00:03:27,599 right as the fire went out i hear a 100 00:03:30,470 --> 00:03:29,680 blood curdling scream from across the 101 00:03:33,030 --> 00:03:30,480 lake 102 00:03:35,110 --> 00:03:33,040 i felt my heart stop lee had said 103 00:03:37,190 --> 00:03:35,120 skinwalkers are fast and could make a 104 00:03:38,070 --> 00:03:37,200 full lap around this lake in a matter of 105 00:03:40,710 --> 00:03:38,080 seconds 106 00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:40,720 i jump in the car and yell go right as 107 00:03:43,030 --> 00:03:42,640 the engine started and the lights come 108 00:03:44,949 --> 00:03:43,040 on 109 00:03:46,070 --> 00:03:44,959 we see it coming out of the bushes in 110 00:03:48,070 --> 00:03:46,080 front of us 111 00:03:51,030 --> 00:03:48,080 blowing yellow eyes and what looked like 112 00:03:53,030 --> 00:03:51,040 a zombified coyote with decaying flesh 113 00:03:54,550 --> 00:03:53,040 we backed up and peeled out of there as 114 00:03:56,869 --> 00:03:54,560 fast as we could 115 00:03:59,030 --> 00:03:56,879 this happened two years ago and it still 116 00:03:59,750 --> 00:03:59,040 scares me to know how close i came to 117 00:04:01,589 --> 00:03:59,760 death 118 00:04:03,509 --> 00:04:01,599 i am honestly amazed that we all 119 00:04:04,470 --> 00:04:03,519 survived such a close encounter with 120 00:04:12,630 --> 00:04:04,480 this thing 121 00:04:16,469 --> 00:04:15,030 skinwalker warning from the navajo i 122 00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:16,479 grew up in the rural community of 123 00:04:20,789 --> 00:04:18,000 crystal new mexico 124 00:04:22,390 --> 00:04:20,799 it's full of trees mountains and hills 125 00:04:24,230 --> 00:04:22,400 the houses are scattered 126 00:04:26,230 --> 00:04:24,240 the nights are pitch black at times 127 00:04:28,629 --> 00:04:26,240 especially when the moon is low 128 00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:28,639 my family is very humble thankful to god 129 00:04:31,909 --> 00:04:29,840 for our success 130 00:04:33,430 --> 00:04:31,919 we help and appreciate others as all 131 00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:33,440 people should be treated 132 00:04:37,350 --> 00:04:35,919 sometimes we are tested one night i had 133 00:04:39,030 --> 00:04:37,360 a friend's sleep over 134 00:04:42,150 --> 00:04:39,040 we were in my room talking and hanging 135 00:04:42,870 --> 00:04:42,160 out it was around 11 pm or so nice 136 00:04:44,790 --> 00:04:42,880 summer night 137 00:04:46,390 --> 00:04:44,800 so my window was wide open and it was 138 00:04:48,230 --> 00:04:46,400 very dark outside 139 00:04:51,590 --> 00:04:48,240 my dad was in the living room watching 140 00:04:54,070 --> 00:04:51,600 tv as usual he fell asleep on the couch 141 00:04:55,990 --> 00:04:54,080 my mom had already gone to bed my friend 142 00:04:57,909 --> 00:04:56,000 and i were talking when all of a sudden 143 00:05:00,230 --> 00:04:57,919 we heard the screen door open and slam 144 00:05:02,310 --> 00:05:00,240 shut we thought it was my dad 145 00:05:03,990 --> 00:05:02,320 well that happens my mom claims she 146 00:05:05,270 --> 00:05:04,000 heard footsteps going through her and 147 00:05:07,189 --> 00:05:05,280 toward the restroom 148 00:05:08,950 --> 00:05:07,199 she thought it was my dad but then she 149 00:05:10,950 --> 00:05:08,960 soon realized that she was unable to 150 00:05:12,950 --> 00:05:10,960 move as if she were paralyzed 151 00:05:14,710 --> 00:05:12,960 still in my room with my friend we soon 152 00:05:15,430 --> 00:05:14,720 heard the screen door open and slam 153 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:15,440 again 154 00:05:19,029 --> 00:05:17,440 the slam woke my dad and he came to my 155 00:05:20,710 --> 00:05:19,039 bedroom to check on us 156 00:05:22,150 --> 00:05:20,720 he wanted to see if we were still there 157 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:22,160 and not into mischief 158 00:05:25,749 --> 00:05:24,000 my mom told us the next morning about 159 00:05:26,550 --> 00:05:25,759 what she heard and how she could not 160 00:05:28,310 --> 00:05:26,560 move 161 00:05:30,310 --> 00:05:28,320 she also told us that the second time 162 00:05:32,390 --> 00:05:30,320 the door slammed she then heard horse 163 00:05:35,189 --> 00:05:32,400 hooves run by her bedroom window 164 00:05:37,110 --> 00:05:35,199 a few nights later i was in bed asleep i 165 00:05:37,990 --> 00:05:37,120 awoke because something outside my open 166 00:05:40,790 --> 00:05:38,000 window was making 167 00:05:42,390 --> 00:05:40,800 noise like a loud stomping sound i was 168 00:05:43,189 --> 00:05:42,400 too scared to get up and close the 169 00:05:45,590 --> 00:05:43,199 window 170 00:05:47,590 --> 00:05:45,600 i stayed still and continued to listen 171 00:05:49,430 --> 00:05:47,600 then i heard something running away 172 00:05:52,150 --> 00:05:49,440 i slowly got up and walked over to the 173 00:05:53,749 --> 00:05:52,160 window as i pulled it shut a large dark 174 00:05:55,510 --> 00:05:53,759 shadow formed outside 175 00:05:56,950 --> 00:05:55,520 i ran back to my bed and pulled the 176 00:05:58,950 --> 00:05:56,960 covers over my head 177 00:06:01,270 --> 00:05:58,960 the next morning my dad told me that 178 00:06:02,790 --> 00:06:01,280 there was a skinwalker visiting at night 179 00:06:04,629 --> 00:06:02,800 this was the first time he ever 180 00:06:06,629 --> 00:06:04,639 mentioned a skinwalker to me 181 00:06:07,830 --> 00:06:06,639 he told me not to fear it our faith will 182 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:07,840 protect us 183 00:06:10,950 --> 00:06:08,880 i don't know what was on the 184 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:10,960 skinwalker's agenda but what i do know 185 00:06:14,950 --> 00:06:13,120 is that my family was stronger than it 186 00:06:16,870 --> 00:06:14,960 our faith is strong and we know our 187 00:06:17,749 --> 00:06:16,880 savior will provide protection for our 188 00:06:19,510 --> 00:06:17,759 family 189 00:06:20,950 --> 00:06:19,520 every year we hike up the mountain to a 190 00:06:23,189 --> 00:06:20,960 high point and we pray for our 191 00:06:30,790 --> 00:06:23,199 community's protection from evil 192 00:06:35,110 --> 00:06:33,510 low mountain skin walker i've seen a 193 00:06:38,230 --> 00:06:35,120 skinwalker once 194 00:06:38,790 --> 00:06:38,240 i have never seen one since my older 195 00:06:40,870 --> 00:06:38,800 brother 196 00:06:42,070 --> 00:06:40,880 older sister and i were going home for 197 00:06:45,029 --> 00:06:42,080 the weekend 198 00:06:46,469 --> 00:06:45,039 we were coming in from phoenix we had to 199 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:46,479 leave pretty late 200 00:06:51,029 --> 00:06:48,960 it usually takes us five hours to get 201 00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:51,039 home which is in low mountain near pine 202 00:06:54,710 --> 00:06:52,319 in arizona 203 00:06:56,710 --> 00:06:54,720 we drove toward keem's canyon highway 204 00:06:58,870 --> 00:06:56,720 and took a certain dirt road that would 205 00:07:00,710 --> 00:06:58,880 take us straight to low mountain 206 00:07:03,110 --> 00:07:00,720 before we reached the dirt road we 207 00:07:05,110 --> 00:07:03,120 noticed a very old lady walking on the 208 00:07:06,790 --> 00:07:05,120 side of the highway with a cane at two 209 00:07:09,270 --> 00:07:06,800 o'clock in the morning 210 00:07:11,990 --> 00:07:09,280 she had her scarf around her head a long 211 00:07:14,230 --> 00:07:12,000 black jacket and wearing a green dress 212 00:07:15,749 --> 00:07:14,240 we did not think anything of it but 213 00:07:18,150 --> 00:07:15,759 thought it was weird that she was 214 00:07:20,790 --> 00:07:18,160 walking late at night on a highway 215 00:07:22,790 --> 00:07:20,800 the reservation is really dark at night 216 00:07:23,909 --> 00:07:22,800 and there are hardly anyone driving on 217 00:07:26,710 --> 00:07:23,919 the roads 218 00:07:28,870 --> 00:07:26,720 we eventually turned on the dirt road a 219 00:07:29,990 --> 00:07:28,880 mile away from the highway we noticed 220 00:07:31,830 --> 00:07:30,000 the same old lady 221 00:07:33,189 --> 00:07:31,840 walking on the side of the dirt road 222 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:33,199 with her cane 223 00:07:38,550 --> 00:07:36,240 i freaked out i started crying because 224 00:07:39,909 --> 00:07:38,560 we knew that it was the same lady 15 225 00:07:41,830 --> 00:07:39,919 miles back 226 00:07:44,790 --> 00:07:41,840 my brother stepped on the gas and 227 00:07:47,189 --> 00:07:44,800 started driving faster he gave us some 228 00:07:49,350 --> 00:07:47,199 medicine to protect us from harm 229 00:07:50,790 --> 00:07:49,360 we eventually got to a highway that 230 00:07:53,749 --> 00:07:50,800 takes us to china 231 00:07:54,150 --> 00:07:53,759 low mountain or pinen we passed the 232 00:07:56,469 --> 00:07:54,160 first 233 00:07:58,469 --> 00:07:56,479 bridge and we noticed that the old lady 234 00:07:58,869 --> 00:07:58,479 was sitting on the highway with her head 235 00:08:01,430 --> 00:07:58,879 down 236 00:08:02,629 --> 00:08:01,440 waving the cane in the air before we 237 00:08:05,350 --> 00:08:02,639 could pass her the car 238 00:08:07,670 --> 00:08:05,360 just shut down and wouldn't start the 239 00:08:08,550 --> 00:08:07,680 old lady stood up facing the opposite 240 00:08:10,629 --> 00:08:08,560 way from us 241 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:10,639 so we wouldn't see her face and walked 242 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:12,960 across the other side of the road 243 00:08:17,670 --> 00:08:15,440 she turned her head to face us and her 244 00:08:19,589 --> 00:08:17,680 face was painted all black 245 00:08:21,670 --> 00:08:19,599 she kept walking and eventually 246 00:08:23,909 --> 00:08:21,680 disappeared in the distance 247 00:08:26,230 --> 00:08:23,919 my brother turned the ignition and the 248 00:08:28,790 --> 00:08:26,240 car started it scared the hell out of me 249 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:28,800 i was crying so bad that i never wanted 250 00:08:32,949 --> 00:08:30,800 to drive through the road again 251 00:08:34,070 --> 00:08:32,959 when we got home we told my parents 252 00:08:36,389 --> 00:08:34,080 about it 253 00:08:38,550 --> 00:08:36,399 my dad said that there was an old couple 254 00:08:41,829 --> 00:08:38,560 that lived between the two highways 255 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:41,839 that did bad medicine on people he also 256 00:08:44,870 --> 00:08:44,000 said that her husband had passed and not 257 00:08:46,949 --> 00:08:44,880 long ago 258 00:08:47,990 --> 00:08:46,959 and that she walks that road every now 259 00:08:50,389 --> 00:08:48,000 and then 260 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:50,399 they had two kids one of them passed 261 00:08:53,829 --> 00:08:52,800 away at a very young age with an unknown 262 00:08:56,310 --> 00:08:53,839 cause of death 263 00:08:58,470 --> 00:08:56,320 and the other one drinks in huffs we 264 00:09:00,389 --> 00:08:58,480 ended up driving back the longer way 265 00:09:03,190 --> 00:09:00,399 which was taking the highway to the 266 00:09:12,710 --> 00:09:03,200 junction road and going toward ganato 267 00:09:15,750 --> 00:09:14,630 school teacher report skinwalker on 268 00:09:17,670 --> 00:09:15,760 tribal road 269 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:17,680 between crown point new mexico and 270 00:09:23,030 --> 00:09:20,800 borrego pass on navajo tribal road 48. 271 00:09:24,630 --> 00:09:23,040 i am a non-native american who has lived 272 00:09:26,550 --> 00:09:24,640 and worked on the navajo indian 273 00:09:28,310 --> 00:09:26,560 reservation as a school teacher on 274 00:09:30,509 --> 00:09:28,320 several different occasions 275 00:09:32,230 --> 00:09:30,519 the most recent gig was from november 276 00:09:35,030 --> 00:09:32,240 1997 to june 277 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:35,040 2000 as a lifelong resident of new 278 00:09:37,590 --> 00:09:35,760 mexico 279 00:09:39,670 --> 00:09:37,600 i have driven hundreds of thousands of 280 00:09:40,870 --> 00:09:39,680 miles with tens of thousands of those 281 00:09:43,190 --> 00:09:40,880 miles at night 282 00:09:44,310 --> 00:09:43,200 i consider myself a very experienced 283 00:09:46,310 --> 00:09:44,320 nighttime driver 284 00:09:47,509 --> 00:09:46,320 where i have seen just about every type 285 00:09:50,070 --> 00:09:47,519 of mammal and animal 286 00:09:50,710 --> 00:09:50,080 both wild and domestic that new mexico 287 00:09:53,990 --> 00:09:50,720 has 288 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:54,000 i've seen deer elk cattle horses sheep 289 00:10:00,470 --> 00:09:57,440 dogs cats rabbits mountain lion badgers 290 00:10:01,110 --> 00:10:00,480 skunks porcupines etc while driving at 291 00:10:03,430 --> 00:10:01,120 night 292 00:10:05,509 --> 00:10:03,440 i recognize them all when i first 293 00:10:06,949 --> 00:10:05,519 started working at borrego pass school 294 00:10:09,030 --> 00:10:06,959 in 1997 295 00:10:11,110 --> 00:10:09,040 i was making a home visit to one of my 296 00:10:13,269 --> 00:10:11,120 students his name was billy 297 00:10:14,310 --> 00:10:13,279 name changed billy was a very 298 00:10:17,030 --> 00:10:14,320 intelligent boy 299 00:10:18,949 --> 00:10:17,040 with a higher than average iq he told me 300 00:10:19,430 --> 00:10:18,959 on that visit that their neighbor a mile 301 00:10:21,990 --> 00:10:19,440 away 302 00:10:23,990 --> 00:10:22,000 was a skinwalker i scoffed at billy and 303 00:10:24,630 --> 00:10:24,000 said something like there is no such 304 00:10:26,470 --> 00:10:24,640 thing 305 00:10:28,550 --> 00:10:26,480 but billy insisted saying that the 306 00:10:29,910 --> 00:10:28,560 neighbor changed into an animal and came 307 00:10:30,790 --> 00:10:29,920 to their house and looked into the 308 00:10:33,030 --> 00:10:30,800 windows 309 00:10:35,350 --> 00:10:33,040 this was all very interesting to me but 310 00:10:38,150 --> 00:10:35,360 i pretty much forgot about what he said 311 00:10:40,710 --> 00:10:38,160 around 1998 i started teaching night 312 00:10:42,550 --> 00:10:40,720 classes at denier college in crown point 313 00:10:43,750 --> 00:10:42,560 teaching astronomy class would end 314 00:10:45,590 --> 00:10:43,760 around 10 pm 315 00:10:48,069 --> 00:10:45,600 and i would head back home to borrego 316 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:48,079 pass 18 miles to the east 317 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:51,120 one night after class about 10 15 pm 318 00:10:54,230 --> 00:10:53,440 sometime in the spring april or may of 319 00:10:57,110 --> 00:10:54,240 2000 320 00:10:59,110 --> 00:10:57,120 i was driving my 1998 ford escort on 321 00:11:01,590 --> 00:10:59,120 navajo tribal road 48. 322 00:11:03,190 --> 00:11:01,600 i drove about 50 miles per hour because 323 00:11:04,870 --> 00:11:03,200 of the possibility of horses and 324 00:11:06,790 --> 00:11:04,880 livestock in the roadway 325 00:11:08,630 --> 00:11:06,800 i always noted billy's house off the 326 00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:08,640 road at about the halfway point to my 327 00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:09,360 home 328 00:11:13,829 --> 00:11:11,920 it was one of my way points it was about 329 00:11:15,750 --> 00:11:13,839 this time that suddenly something weird 330 00:11:17,110 --> 00:11:15,760 passed from right to left in front of my 331 00:11:18,790 --> 00:11:17,120 car's headlights 332 00:11:20,470 --> 00:11:18,800 this was the strangest creature or 333 00:11:21,190 --> 00:11:20,480 object i've ever encountered on the 334 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:21,200 route 335 00:11:25,269 --> 00:11:23,040 it was a large shapeless hole that did 336 00:11:27,430 --> 00:11:25,279 not reflect any light whatsoever 337 00:11:29,030 --> 00:11:27,440 my car's headlights simply disappeared 338 00:11:30,150 --> 00:11:29,040 and were swallowed into the darkness of 339 00:11:33,269 --> 00:11:30,160 this mass 340 00:11:36,069 --> 00:11:33,279 i saw no definite shape no legs no head 341 00:11:38,310 --> 00:11:36,079 no eyes just a shapeless black hole i 342 00:11:39,269 --> 00:11:38,320 have never seen anything quite like it 343 00:11:42,069 --> 00:11:39,279 before or since 344 00:11:44,310 --> 00:11:42,079 but whatever it was gave me the creeps i 345 00:11:46,949 --> 00:11:44,320 remember getting scared and speeding up 346 00:11:47,670 --> 00:11:46,959 i pushed the car's speed up to 65 miles 347 00:11:49,750 --> 00:11:47,680 per hour 348 00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:49,760 and got to my little duplex at borrego 349 00:11:53,030 --> 00:11:51,040 pass asap 350 00:11:54,629 --> 00:11:53,040 i got into the apartment as quickly and 351 00:11:56,790 --> 00:11:54,639 locked the door behind me 352 00:11:58,310 --> 00:11:56,800 i then sat in the living room trying to 353 00:12:00,710 --> 00:11:58,320 figure out what i saw 354 00:12:02,069 --> 00:12:00,720 the next day i told one of my navajo 355 00:12:04,389 --> 00:12:02,079 friends what i saw 356 00:12:06,470 --> 00:12:04,399 his jaw dropped he immediately said it 357 00:12:07,190 --> 00:12:06,480 was a skinwalker but i had nothing to 358 00:12:09,910 --> 00:12:07,200 worry about 359 00:12:10,870 --> 00:12:09,920 since they can't harm white men still it 360 00:12:12,710 --> 00:12:10,880 was weird 361 00:12:14,790 --> 00:12:12,720 i have told this story to several 362 00:12:16,629 --> 00:12:14,800 navajos and they have all pretty much 363 00:12:17,750 --> 00:12:16,639 come to the same conclusion that it was 364 00:12:26,150 --> 00:12:17,760 a skinwalker 365 00:12:29,990 --> 00:12:28,550 so the evil will forget our faces i was 366 00:12:31,590 --> 00:12:30,000 a kid when this happened 367 00:12:33,430 --> 00:12:31,600 my uncle and i were finishing up 368 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:33,440 chopping and gathering firewood for my 369 00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:35,600 grandmother because it was getting dark 370 00:12:38,710 --> 00:12:37,600 this was on the navajo reservation here 371 00:12:40,870 --> 00:12:38,720 in arizona 372 00:12:43,190 --> 00:12:40,880 driving back on a dirt road at about 30 373 00:12:44,150 --> 00:12:43,200 miles per hour i had this awful sense of 374 00:12:45,750 --> 00:12:44,160 being watched 375 00:12:48,230 --> 00:12:45,760 before i could turn to look out my 376 00:12:49,430 --> 00:12:48,240 window passenger side my uncle quickly 377 00:12:52,150 --> 00:12:49,440 shouted don't 378 00:12:53,670 --> 00:12:52,160 i completely froze my heart felt like it 379 00:12:55,670 --> 00:12:53,680 was beating out of my chest 380 00:12:57,509 --> 00:12:55,680 then completely stopped when i heard a 381 00:12:59,509 --> 00:12:57,519 tap tap on my window 382 00:13:00,949 --> 00:12:59,519 my uncle sped up and was loudly praying 383 00:13:02,629 --> 00:13:00,959 in my native language 384 00:13:04,150 --> 00:13:02,639 i didn't know what was going on and 385 00:13:06,310 --> 00:13:04,160 thought it was over until our truck 386 00:13:07,509 --> 00:13:06,320 suddenly dipped from the bed my uncle 387 00:13:09,990 --> 00:13:07,519 then started saying 388 00:13:10,629 --> 00:13:10,000 look at me and don't turn away over and 389 00:13:12,870 --> 00:13:10,639 over 390 00:13:14,310 --> 00:13:12,880 then i heard it again tap tap but from 391 00:13:15,990 --> 00:13:14,320 the window behind me 392 00:13:17,590 --> 00:13:16,000 it was getting harder for me to breathe 393 00:13:19,509 --> 00:13:17,600 than i wanted to cry 394 00:13:22,230 --> 00:13:19,519 my neuter 2 passed and the truck dipped 395 00:13:23,990 --> 00:13:22,240 again my uncle looked around inside 396 00:13:26,310 --> 00:13:24,000 it was quite besides the truck and the 397 00:13:27,990 --> 00:13:26,320 road he looked at me and said we will 398 00:13:28,790 --> 00:13:28,000 ask your father to do a prayer in the 399 00:13:31,110 --> 00:13:28,800 morning 400 00:13:33,110 --> 00:13:31,120 so the evil will forget our faces i 401 00:13:35,190 --> 00:13:33,120 remember curling up on the seat and just 402 00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:35,200 staring at the radio watching the time 403 00:13:39,430 --> 00:13:37,200 listening to my uncle sing an old prayer 404 00:13:41,350 --> 00:13:39,440 till we got to my grandmother's house 405 00:13:42,949 --> 00:13:41,360 i later called my uncle because i had a 406 00:13:45,430 --> 00:13:42,959 nightmare about that night 407 00:13:46,870 --> 00:13:45,440 we talked about it for a bit he said i 408 00:13:49,269 --> 00:13:46,880 didn't see faces 409 00:13:49,990 --> 00:13:49,279 just eyes like brake lights you see on 410 00:13:52,150 --> 00:13:50,000 the road 411 00:13:53,910 --> 00:13:52,160 they watched you before hanging up i 412 00:13:55,509 --> 00:13:53,920 tried joking with him about it 413 00:13:57,910 --> 00:13:55,519 why didn't you just step on the brake 414 00:14:00,710 --> 00:13:57,920 when it was in the back no laughter 415 00:14:01,350 --> 00:14:00,720 just a pause because it wasn't alone he 416 00:14:07,350 --> 00:14:01,360 said 417 00:14:10,790 --> 00:14:09,910 this is lon strickler if you like this 418 00:14:12,550 --> 00:14:10,800 program 419 00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:12,560 it would help us if you would give 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